ok, in the last week or so, I have seen alot of people yelling "HACK" at the speed demons that seem to be on the rise. I personaly don't accuse anyone of hacking, but am so tired of reading all the accusations.

I know there is certain skills, drugs, mods, and other such things that can help in increasing speed, so if anyone out there can please explain how people run faster than a bullet, please post here. I am doing this only in hopes that those who are yelling "HACK" all the time can have some understanding of how such things are possible.

Again I am not accusing anyone of anything. I am simply trying to get input on how you turn into speedy gonzalis so that at least some might better understand and stop yelling "HACK" at people who learned to use the game skills, drugs, ect ect.

*on a side note, I don't mind the speed thing too much. It just makes me learn to aim better and take them down..lol

 Hack is just another way of complaining, like "noob."

Quote | Avarice posted on Sep 28 2010 01:39 AM UTC

 Hack is just another way of complaining, like "noob."

That is sad but true. I have seen alot of accusations by supposedly "adult" players just because they got there feelings hurt by a better player. When I first started, I wondered how some of these supposedly impossible feats where being done. As I got higher level and spent more time in game, I figured out alot of it and can do some of it now.

The main problem is that to many people yell out "HACK" at something that isn't, could put off some of the newer players and make them think the game isn't worth it if everyone hacks. I ran into a guy who I was shooting (he was at my level) and I was only doing 8 damage per shot with a nicely moded calabrese. After the match I asked him what he was doing to reduce the damage like that. I found out the psp (I think it is) is what he was using, causeing his resistance to raise higher than normal for a short period of time.

A simple example of what someone might call a hack that is perfectly explainable. That what this thread is for. To explain the latest speed craze that has arisen.

SMG with runspeed mods + a little lag will make someone look like they're going too fast.  Just try to anticipate their moves and cut them off, because you have to remember, things are probably a little bit off for them too.

Quote | aLateralus posted on Sep 27 2010 08:07 PM UTC

SMG with runspeed mods + a little lag will make someone look like they're going too fast.  Just try to anticipate their moves and cut them off, because you have to remember, things are probably a little bit off for them too.

Take note of this response.

Level 3 (or even level 2) endurance can/will make you look way fast. I have been accused of that crap many times, but it is pretty much always because I run erratically and roll and even jump knife to move around (especially when trying to dodge bullets when running bags in Robbery) and it probably gives the illusion of moving very quickly.

Endurance to 100% infinititly is a mistake. Rank 3 needs a nerf to 90%.

Quote | Synapze777 posted on Sep 28 2010 03:40 PM UTC

Endurance to 100% infinititly is a mistake. Rank 3 needs a nerf to 90%.

You could probably still run the entire map and not lose anything... Rank 2 is sittin at 60% and I can run ALMOST as far as I want/need. The fact that there is no sprint & reload anymore ensures getting your stamina back is simple through reloading.

the only speed thingy that I am told is a hack for sure is the one where you die before a player and he respaw way before you do

I even noticed some dying and being back right next to me in as litle as 5 secs

I have to wait 20 secs for my respaw plus a few secs for the dead screen to go away

As I rarely ever have to wait 20 seconds to respawn (once per... 500 or so deaths) and 90% of deaths really take less than 4-6 seconds - I'm not sure in what context to put that - are you sure you're clicking?  The auto-respawn timer is what it is - automatic; meaning if the player decides not to manually respawn by clicking

There is no doubt the enhanced endurance skill changed the game. I'm pretty sure that the majority of skilled players use enhanced endurance, the ability to run non-stop is priceless. If it was changed to the point where it actually effected the skill, because as NightHound said, you can run as far as you need to go on level 2 at 60%. Then people would have to reconsider using Wood, Juato again to have the ability to run non-stop, which would put another spin on drug combo's. Although I use enhanced endurance, I would defiantly be happy if it was never introduced or altered in a major way.

Spyo when the 'dead screen' goes, left click and you will spawn without having to wait for the automatic spawn timer to spawn.