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Jan 22 2012 05:35 PM UTC (4 months)
I dont beleive they have ever changed or nerfed dis, dont really see how they could. But when u say class, that could be ur problem, go custom, keep crafting alive!
Jan 23 2012 07:37 AM UTC (4 months)
Crafting/Custom = half your time you dont play PvP
Classes = 1/1 of your time you play PvP ^^
I think he means that Regenerator is somehow weak and should have a +4 hp Shirt.
Would be nice so, but unnecessary.
For the DIS: Yes, it should be reworked/removed/nerfed. I dont see any custom profiles (except full fire) that go without DIS anymore. Its just like standard.
And DIS is the only reason the classes are not competitive at all (so u need some skill to be *g*).
DIS is just uber lame and in my oppinion the most annyoing part of this game apart from knife jump.
Jan 23 2012 08:01 AM UTC (4 months)
If u can't use medkits with DIS then it's nearl useless if u get killed by the players who use it why don't u use it urself

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Jan 23 2012 08:46 AM UTC (4 months)
Common build in pubs:
DIS + ES + Enhanced Metabolism, Medkit, LS/Amp/Frenzy
Sigma/SG2/Rask LMG
When I first played CC I had the impression that it is different and that there is a big variety in possible builds and equips. But if it comes to the end, there is always only one really good combination and in all cases DIS is involved.
I asked in another thread: why not remove DIS and make all Boosts direct inject automatically. The game is not much different from that atm.
And I dont enjoy using DIS because it feels like a cheat/exploit. Its just b o r i n g.
I also tested that Bess/ES/Jelly Joy/Enhanced Metabolism and Knife build. Well. Its just... LOL. AutoKill all in pubs and if u can manage well even in tours. B o r i n g.
It think Vogster did a very good job on the Classes. All of them are thought through (or at least the most of them) and work quite fine in their individual way. Every class needs its own playing style and that adds very much to the game (IMO).
But: if Vogster would have made a balanced game, custom builders would now just rebuild classes with better boosts and their custom weapons instead of still using DIS and the other mentioned stuff above.
I barely see any new combinations, especially in tournaments or high level pub games. Except that Hargan Bulldog has completly vanished, everything else is still in its place :)
Jan 23 2012 11:36 PM UTC (4 months)
I love DIS, but I agree that it may be a bit too useful. Simple solution: make stabbing yourself with a needle quicker. Thank me later.
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Jan 24 2012 03:27 AM UTC (4 months)
When I first realized most of the top players were using DIS I trained and began using it. After a week or so it definitely seemed a bit cheap as heads up 1v1 it wins 90% of the time. I've since dropped it from my custom build(s). However, recently I've noticed it's almost exclusively used by execs top players (thank you medic for not adopting this strategy). I'm now reconsidering using it again just to be competitive against these players. This isn't something I'm really happy about. I really like the difference in playstyle when switching up abilities however I'm getting extremely tired of running into the same players utilizing this every match. Something needs to be done or we'll just end up with most everyone that can afford to use this doing so.



Jan 24 2012 10:00 AM UTC (4 months)
I think developers already know about large displeasment with fact DIS being op. I think idea limiting somehow DIS use, so medkits cant be used with it, but 8 sec boost like bess or raze can is good one.
I want also point out, its electric shield, what make DIS twice so much powerfull. Without it, it would be more easy for everyone to take out DIS user as long he can use knife decently. With electric shield however, their tank ability increasing considerably and make builds without DIS even more inferior.
Its sort of ironic, developers listened to people complaining about knife, mostly from newbies or notorious DIS abusers, and nerfed it again and again, than introduced electric shield and now we can all enjoy results.
Jan 24 2012 10:40 AM UTC (4 months)
Quote | tikulti posted on Jan 24 2012 02:00 AM UTCI think developers already know about large displeasment with fact DIS being op. I think idea limiting somehow DIS use, so medkits cant be used with it, but 8 sec boost like bess or raze can is good one.
I want also point out, its electric shield, what make DIS twice so much powerfull. Without it, it would be more easy for everyone to take out DIS user as long he can use knife decently. With electric shield however, their tank ability increasing considerably and make builds without DIS even more inferior.
Its sort of ironic, developers listened to people complaining about knife, mostly from newbies or notorious DIS abusers, and nerfed it again and again, than introduced electric shield and now we can all enjoy results.
The thing is, DIS is a core component of CrimeCraft, and I do not think they know exactly what to do with it.
I think the best thing to do is make all boosts boost instantly, and remove DIS completely. That way there can be more variety in builds again.
They could also remove level 2 DIS, so that only 1 slot can be used with DIS, but medkits cannot be equipped to the first slot. But i think this will remove the frenzied playstyle many love about the game. I would much rather see the skill everyone loves so much just get built in.
Jan 24 2012 11:26 AM UTC (4 months)
They just "love" the ability because it makes them strong without any skill requirements...
I suggested the DIS to be free for all without skill slot requirements already in BETA.
I also suggested to make it for 8 second boosts ONLY.
But never anybody replied to anything. I think the flaming in the forums could be stopped if someone would just say "We do sth."
They replied to the 1000th Merge US Servers topic and the replied to the cheater topic, but what bothers me is, that I just dont know what can be expected for the game or when...
Some month ago some dev wrote that DIS will be nerfed through its AUG (I dont think that will have much effect) but he also said it will be done in a "later" patch. So when is "later"?
It just seems like it will take another year until the next major upgrade (if there will be one) to take any other major steps done. This just makes me sad :(
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Direct injection become really abused, 1/2 players have DIS that just mean DIS is abused, i think DIS have to be only for duration boost and unaviable for instant boostAs its name suggests this class should be a class with 2 regeneration boost with 4hp second medkit and skill like enhanced metabolism, Auto injector and Nbr so the Players have 12 hp second and some skill to spam healing
Please say +1 If you are [filtered]in pissed by DIS