Ok I am sure the devs, gms and everyone else are well aware of the Server issues and also how much the server can lag from time to time. I am also sure that they are getting flooded with Reports of people hacking usen aimbots and so on.

 So i decided to record a video to show what the game play is like when the server is lagging, But that was not my intentions, my intentions were recording a video of a couple of players possibly hacking. But after looking and replaying the video many times, I came to one only conclusion to what it was, server lag but i could be wrong. so here is the video of what player are haven to deal with when they do PVP and how difficult and frustrating it can be to kill some one. In this video i Title all the fishy areas. Now i cant come up with a good reason for every thing that is going on in this video but i am sure it is server lag.

 So i ask you DEVs and GMs to take a look at his video and see what you think about, i would love to hear your opinons. Same with other players plz post your comments and/or videos on this thread. but i do ask that you leave you ego, frustration and so on out of this thread, I only want postive feedback on this. I am not trying to call anyone out on this thread, It is only here to help the Devs and GMs understand what the player are seeing in these matches. Devs plz look at this thread and plz make a good judgement on this issue and try to fix this on going server lag issue, were here to help you Devs. you want the feedback well i cant think of anyother better way to give it to you other then a video. Thank you.

Here is the Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngqOGSgDwI

Remember thumbs up to keep this thread alive for Dev's to see

Awesome bud!  Very nicely done.  I am married to a wall in Othello Skybridge!

;D and a mailbox :P

LoL didn't know you could multi task like that, the wall is hard to keep happy i can only imagine what a mail box would Be like. But the spawning use into wall all the time is really starting to get annoying lol. i cant keep all the walls happy. just one at a time one at a time.

Watched half of the video than I got annoyed of the music and the footage wasnt even anything special o.o

However, yesterday I read the mechanism of how Unreal engine works, and all lag you really see is only produced by your own latencies. Briefly put it works like this:

You do an input, it gets send to the server. Upon several inputs the server takes a guess on what your next step ist. The server sends his guess out to other players and uses it for calculating damage you take(thats why the ghost shooting/knifeing works, the other player and the server really see you in that spot, they knife correctly on their screen).

When your actuall positon in your client and the servers position of you is really awkward, than you get put back in place by the servers idea of where you are. So its fluent gameplay and the higher your ping is, the more "lagknifed" you will get, since the server simply predicts the future [filtered] like that happens. Life with it and take it into account when you play (stay away of knifehappy people like blis for example) and you can actually do fine.

And please move when you pic up a flag on the ground, sitting duck isnt exaclty the best tactic.

just my 2c

 Dear god I can't imagine having to play with that sun glare. Low graphics are so ftw sometimes.

 I agree for the most part. 
I really only find problems with knives, to be honest. Either my character is showing that I hit another, but no damage given, or I am hit by someone who shouldn't have been able to hit me, ie., I am out of knife range.

I really would love to chalk it up to shoddy knife skills, but I think lag takes the cake on this one. And if not lag, bugs. Something abnormal.

@Flail. If you were a GM or DEV i would listen to your opinon, The down fall your not. Sorry i didnt realize i need to make a video with music you like let alone a movie that would entertain you. That not what this video and or thread is about. If you were not a lagging [filtered] yourself i would be more then happy to listen to your 2scense with an open mind.

 This video is for the DEVS and GMS to help them understand what us players are seeing in PVP matches. The only reason why you know were to place your characeter and how to stay away for melee attackes is cause you lag so much your used to playing like that no matter what the server lag can be at that time. just like you sig you may not be usen a lag switch but your ping is very high.

 Lower your ping then come talk to me and try to give me tips, but your tips are usless to the averge player with low ping let alone a decent computer. The people that have a good setup let alone low ping are in a different play world then people like you. sorry to say but GTFO this thread if you dont like the video i can do with out your input. if you want to reword you opinion to were it dosent sound like you know all the answeres and have the best setup possible then be my guest, till then i would apreciate it that you no longer post your opinion on some ones else thread to help the gms and or DEVS, my [filtered]en bad its not a good video. how about you make one and post it on this fourms like i have instead of saying how bad my video sucks.

I admit, it does look strange. But I can't say if this is some exploit or 3rd party hack, or anything related to lag at this time. The video is only showing the situation from one perspective. It would have been nice to be around to spectate this and watch the match from different angles, so we can observe that knife jump issue.

Anyway, I'll flag this thread and pass this along to the rest of the support staff. We will notify the devs in our report.

If you have any more videos regarding this situation, feel free to post it in this thread.

Last Edited on: Jul 25 2010 01:04 AM UTC (Feb 10 2012, 10:57am GMT)

 Thank you Termx, and yes i do wish you could of been in that match to see from all angals and everything. If i do happen to get ahold of another video (I will try to make it more enjoyable for FLAIL and other veiwers) i will post on this thread for you to look at. I may of been lag it may not, Thats why i posted it in my opinion it is lag and i am sure that is more and more what other players are think also do to the server issues lately. That will make it more difficult to see if some one is hacking or if it is lag. That can make it realy hard to know the diffrence between the two.  

 But the input you have said Termx is very good and makes me second guess my orignal thoughts on that video and also lets me keep an open mind on what i am seeing. Thank you for your input Termx.

 I along with the Community would love to see this issue defined in detail in what is going on with the server, This could help the community let alone me become more pacient on the up an comming patches, but i will say this issue has gone on for way too long and needs to be adressed t the community let alone solved in the next patch to come.

 I am sure the DEVs and the GMs have been working on this issue and hope to have it fixed here soon...... or at least i hope they are.................

 Remeber even knowing Termx flag this thread to the DEVS and passed it on to other GMs it still needs  to keep it alive. Thank you

Yesterday Showtime was doing the same crap to me, personally I think it's the female toon that's bugged I have yet to see this kind of knifing on a male toon.

Nice video. Really. I can say i get more absurd knife kills from Showtime and Blis, but this was a good example. Its really strange because Blis is Ziko and i never saw Ziko to lag or give lag knife kills. Is it because of female character and smg? Idk, but i have a female character and running smg too and i cant make so incredibly amazing knife kills. Even if we jump at the same time i always lose. These guys are my friends and i like them, so i dont think they cheat but its little bit frustrating to know you cant do almost anything against their lag knifes...