Pls do something with the STP in High difficulty... All NPCs has 50% (or maybe more) resistance and 120-160HP, and they use boosts... 2-3 hit and u are down. Without second chance is impossible. They shooting u from 4 places in the same time, they drop grenade, smoke, corrosive grenade, fire in the same time.. The clearshot can give u a headshot, so one-shot-one-kill. Its like fighting in 6v1 agains lvl50 players with full set and boosts... 

I have a +25% PvE damage AUG, with this i hit 15 with SG2 S5 AR and 17 with Hargan LMG. The Frag grenade hit max 60, need 4-5 to kill one bot.

To make money in this game u need to craft. If u wana craft u need a lot of rare stuffs whats only can found in High difficulty STP. If u dont play in Hard u dont get Tier 5 Containers, then u cant craft and u cant make money.

STP on hard difficulty is very hard yes, I would argue it is impossible without the flashbang. There are two ways I know of:

Invisibility, wind shadow second chance: You die on a box get it with second chance, die respawn and do it again. You can get as high as 50 boxes like this using stam boosts to be able to sprint more but it is boring as hell. Kind of an exploit.

Flashbang, second chance, dampening field: Flashbang makes the mobs stop shooting in a large area for a relatively long time, you must have it they do too much damage. Second chance is also pretty obvious, one of it's advantages is unlimited healing, sureboost for exemple, has only 4 uses per life. Dampening field is very useful also because the mobs throw a ton of stuff at you as soon as you poke your head out.

This second one is my build and I got up to 40 boxes with it, a bad stockpile will be 30. It's often 35. It is a bit of a shame that, if people don't know this, stockpile is insanely ennoying because, like you said, you get shot from every direction your constantly sitting on a flaming pile of grenades while shocked and flashed with no ammo, ok im exaggerating but it does get pretty crazy in STP.

PS: I'm speaking of 50 hard stp, I think that's the subject.

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Quote | Unite posted on Dec 04 2011 09:53 AM UTC

STP on hard difficulty is very hard yes, I would argue it is impossible without the flashbang. There are two ways I know of:

Invisibility, wind shadow second chance: You die on a box get it with second chance, die respawn and do it again. You can get as high as 50 boxes like this using stam boosts to be able to sprint more but it is boring as hell. Kind of an exploit.

Flashbang, second chance, dampening field: Flashbang makes the mobs stop shooting in a large area for a relatively long time, you must have it they do too much damage. Second chance is also pretty obvious, one of it's advantages is unlimited healing, sureboost for exemple, has only 4 uses per life. Dampening field is very useful also because the mobs throw a ton of stuff at you as soon as you poke your head out.

This second one is my build and I got up to 40 boxes with it, a bad stockpile will be 30. It's often 35. It is a bit of a shame that, if people don't know this, stockpile is insanely ennoying because, like you said, you get shot from every direction your constantly sitting on a flaming pile of grenades while shocked and flashed with no ammo, ok im exaggerating but it does get pretty crazy in STP.

PS: I'm speaking of 50 hard stp, I think that's the subject.

actually lv50 hard mode can be done without a weapon naked :P all you need is invisibility, wind shadow, and second chance. what you so is go invisible, run to a container, stand about 10 feet away, uncloak, and knifejump on the container, and second chance on it. You'll pick it up 90% of the time before you die, then just let um kill you. rince and repeat. you can get around 25-30 containers once you master it. More if you get good at it. This does not work if there detection field generator guys are around tho.

Quote | rich1051414 posted on Dec 04 2011 10:17 AM UTC

Quote | Unite posted on Dec 04 2011 09:53 AM UTC

STP on hard difficulty is very hard yes, I would argue it is impossible without the flashbang. There are two ways I know of:

Invisibility, wind shadow second chance: You die on a box get it with second chance, die respawn and do it again. You can get as high as 50 boxes like this using stam boosts to be able to sprint more but it is boring as hell. Kind of an exploit.

Flashbang, second chance, dampening field: Flashbang makes the mobs stop shooting in a large area for a relatively long time, you must have it they do too much damage. Second chance is also pretty obvious, one of it's advantages is unlimited healing, sureboost for exemple, has only 4 uses per life. Dampening field is very useful also because the mobs throw a ton of stuff at you as soon as you poke your head out.

This second one is my build and I got up to 40 boxes with it, a bad stockpile will be 30. It's often 35. It is a bit of a shame that, if people don't know this, stockpile is insanely ennoying because, like you said, you get shot from every direction your constantly sitting on a flaming pile of grenades while shocked and flashed with no ammo, ok im exaggerating but it does get pretty crazy in STP.

PS: I'm speaking of 50 hard stp, I think that's the subject.

actually lv50 hard mode can be done without a weapon naked :P all you need is invisibility, wind shadow, and second chance. what you so is go invisible, run to a container, stand about 10 feet away, uncloak, and knifejump on the container, and second chance on it. You'll pick it up 90% of the time before you die, then just let um kill you. rince and repeat. you can get around 25-30 containers once you master it. More if you get good at it. This does not work if there detection field generator guys are around tho.

Really? I would have never thought of that!

I'm always using Master guns in Pve (and it works well for Core annihilation too now).

Skills : grenades (3), Heal grenade, Second Chance.

Guns : AR, LMG

I get between 30 to 45 containers (hard mode level 50).

But in this settings you have to kill the ennemies

Since one year that i'm playing i know perfectly where ennemies are or where they spawn so it's more easy when you know that.

Quote | MagicEyes posted on Dec 04 2011 10:27 PM UTC

I'm always using Master guns in Pve (and it works well for Core annihilation too now).

Skills : grenades (3), Heal grenade, Second Chance.

Guns : AR, LMG

I get between 30 to 45 containers (hard mode level 50).

But in this settings you have to kill the ennemies

Since one year that i'm playing i know perfectly where ennemies are or where they spawn so it's more easy when you know that.

master guns in my opinion is the best setup for pve killing. the method i said above you can do in your sleep tho, which is why it's my prefered way to do stp now. as for hht and sfg tho, master guns all the way :D

 Arn't grenades a bit pointless when they barely do any damage? Furthermore how can you take care of hammers if they arnt far away and you dont have flash bangs? Do you use the fact that mobs start running at the sight of a nade? Have you tried using the flash?

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Quote | Unite posted on Dec 04 2011 03:35 PM UTC

 Arn't grenades a bit pointless when they barely do any damage? Furthermore how can you take care of hammers if they arnt far away and you dont have flash bangs? Do you use the fact that mobs start running at the sight of a nade? Have you tried using the flash?

ai is predetermined, after long enough, you know exactly what they will do, 3 well placed grenades will give you a genocide. for hammers, i use a combonation of partial cover and an nbr, dead hammer everytime. For the boss, a combo of partial cover nbr and second chance means you can beat him without a death as long as the spawns are not too bad. Grenades are oh so awesome since the bots like to jam up in places :)

Ok, its not impossible, I find 30-45 container every time, but these are mostly Tier 4 (useless after a while) and not Tier 5... they should buff the Tier 5 container chance, then will be fair.

 I wish there were videos of people doing different methods, I tried recording but my computer can't handle it.