So, when is vogster putting an end to this bs ? It's clear that some people are exploiting lag and teaching others to do it as well. Can you make either exeter or eurico available exclusively to North Americans ? I don't think most North American players will stick around if these teleporting roadrunners keep ruining both servers.

Or could they at least start banning people for explitation?  As they could start monitoring pings of players during games, this would easliy point out players who are cheating though it will produce some false positives but if you say a change of more than 25% would indicate cheating.

I know from a fact I  would be one as my ping changes slightly during gameplay without me doing anything (Even when dead it can change from red to yellow and back again (Indicates I am on the boundary of those two ranges)). 

Alternative question how many players on exeter and euricho are acutally american?  As I am from australia and get better pings to those servers even though they are not that good 200-250ms.

If North america would be alone it would be like 5% population? Sounds fun for you.

There will always be some kind of lag (delay) whatever game you ever play, it's called online gaming. It doesn't has to be lag exploiting just because you are loosing.

Quote | Gladjolt posted on Dec 19 2011 07:20 AM UTC

If North america would be alone it would be like 5% population? Sounds fun for you.

There will always be some kind of lag (delay) whatever game you ever play, it's called online gaming. It doesn't has to be lag exploiting just because you are loosing.

Since you seem to be quite ignorant, I'll try to explain it in a way you can understand. First of all, I was speaking on behalf of people who join this game, and leave because of lag. We got a couple of guys who used to play cs and cod in our gang after the steam promotion. And, some of them left the game after a week, because " they had never experienced this sort of lag in other game". If you play any other game with well administered dedicated servers, most of the servers would have a 150 ping cap. That's implemented to avoid high pingers joining the server and ruining the fun for everybody. You may not understand this, because your gaming experience seem to be limited to cc.

Also, I didn't say make both servers North American only. Most people here have proposed the idea that either exeter or eurico should be an international server and the other should be North American. As for me "QQing, because I lose". Come to eurico server and see for yourself how I'm doing. Or ask one of other top gangs about felony's quickscopes. I used to pay subs for this game for 2 years even when I could not play due to med school. I love this game so much, and I would not want to see this game die. If this lag bs keeps up, most of the North American players ( people who are most likely to get premium or afford one) would leave this game. I hope I made myself clear to you.

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Try any other MMO and you won't have a ping under 200. It's not like each game started get their own server in crimecraft.

That you created this thread just tell your doing the same on euricho and exeter, still loosing to those you think is a lag exploiter.

We have showed euricho before who's the bosses, and we will do it again soon enough ;) (guess where most euricho "top" players ran off from? Just like you)

I also do not want to see this game die. But if a server would be north america exclusive it would be dead.

Last Edited on: Dec 19 2011 08:23 AM UTC (156 Days ago)

I don't know if limiting the server to only certain players is the right thing to do or not but I do think putting a ping cap on one of the servers would be a good idea. Yes I am sure that there must already be one but it seems at times that it is 2X what it should be. A server with a low ping cap would could still easily be populated by those players who feel as if others are exploiting lag..

I think its quite sad what north americans doing lately, blaming all europeans. Yes they are few players who aparently exploiting lags, usually they get best score all time, while its very hard to register hits on them and something should be done about that. I have hard time believe it is just natural lag, based on thier whole playstyle. 

However its has nothing to do with being european, its just exploiting. If all europeans had such unfair advantige on us servers, ofcourse all americans would run on eu servers to do same. Past experience with turrets or fire aug teach us, if something give player advantige over others, 90% of players would use it no matter how lame it is. But it is not happening, so obviously playing on another server dont give players such great advantige.

Quote | Gladjolt posted on Dec 19 2011 12:21 AM UTC

Try any other MMO and you won't have a ping under 200. It's not like each game started get their own server in crimecraft.

That you created this thread just tell your doing the same on euricho and exeter, still loosing to those you think is a lag exploiter.

We have showed euricho before who's the bosses, and we will do it again soon enough ;) (guess where most euricho "top" players ran off from? Just like you)

I also do not want to see this game die. But if a server would be north america exclusive it would be dead.

Are you kidding me? You are denying the problem? Are you mentally handicapped or covering for someone? Those are the only two logical reasons to deny the problem. Any experienced gamer knows what lag exploitation is, happens in other games, happens in this one. Denying the problme doesnt make you appear to have a big epeen gladjolt, sorry. It makes you look like an idiot who doesnt care for the community.

Edit: Ok that was a bit harsh, especially by my standards, and i understand alot of the frustrations the non-laggers feel are innocent side effects from lag compensation, but there is those that do know how to exploit it, and they are teaching others. I think we need to work together to gather the evidence, because letting the real exploitation fly under the radar as generic 'lag induced anomalies' isn't doing anyone a favor.

Last Edited on: Dec 19 2011 05:23 PM UTC (156 Days ago)

Just because someone lags, it doesn't mean they're cheating right off the bat. Some people just have a bad connection, plain and simple.

For too long this debate has continued. If you really want to assist us in catching those using unfair means, we need evidence to back up the claim, that way we can compare it with our tools to determine if the lag is intentional. Video footage of them playing will be helpful, even detailed information on what they do that makes you believe they're cheating.

More facts and information, less reporting based on speculation. That's all we ask.